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	<description>Sharp opinions about mines and mining from Jack Caldwell</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Patrice Motsepe: mining billionaire on soccer and safety by Neli</title>
		<link>http://ithink.mining.com/2008/03/06/patrice-motsepe-mining-billionaire-on-soccer-and-safety/#comment-5504</link>
		<dc:creator>Neli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What more can we say about Mr Motsepe,he is legend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What more can we say about Mr Motsepe,he is legend!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mining the electorate for votes and nuclear power by Joan</title>
		<link>http://ithink.mining.com/2008/06/18/mining-the-electorate-for-votes-and-nuclear-power/#comment-5502</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading this I guess this WIPP is yet another example of political-driven NIMBY.  If done correctly, a WIPP should be a viable option for the mining industry throughout the world, but it's a safe bet we'll never know.  Too bad politicians - like Obama -won't take the time to check facts before ranting against pilot programs that might bring about solutions to our planet's ailments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this I guess this WIPP is yet another example of political-driven NIMBY.  If done correctly, a WIPP should be a viable option for the mining industry throughout the world, but it&#8217;s a safe bet we&#8217;ll never know.  Too bad politicians - like Obama -won&#8217;t take the time to check facts before ranting against pilot programs that might bring about solutions to our planet&#8217;s ailments.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Costa Rica: will it ever learn mining? by Jason Lapointe</title>
		<link>http://ithink.mining.com/2008/06/13/costa-rica-will-it-ever-learn-mining/#comment-5501</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Lapointe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd like to follow this story.  If Costa Rica can give mining another shot, they've got to be on to something.  Is there any data available as to how much profit would it generate for the Costa Rican State?  What are the short and long term impacts for Green Costa Rica?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to follow this story.  If Costa Rica can give mining another shot, they&#8217;ve got to be on to something.  Is there any data available as to how much profit would it generate for the Costa Rican State?  What are the short and long term impacts for Green Costa Rica?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mining truck driver wants job: do you have the right opportunity for Australia? by Walter</title>
		<link>http://ithink.mining.com/2008/02/07/mining-truck-driver-wants-job-do-you-have-the-right-opportunity-for-australia/#comment-5497</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes it is all hype, I have completed all then courses needed, and still getting knocked back.

These companies will always hire an experienced person over one without experience, and there are many experienced operators out there. So unless you have inside connections, goodluck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it is all hype, I have completed all then courses needed, and still getting knocked back.</p>
<p>These companies will always hire an experienced person over one without experience, and there are many experienced operators out there. So unless you have inside connections, goodluck.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Costa Rica: will it ever learn mining? by Fred Williams</title>
		<link>http://ithink.mining.com/2008/06/13/costa-rica-will-it-ever-learn-mining/#comment-5495</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI...Infinito Gold out of Calgary are also permitting a new gold mine in northern Costa Rica, so some activity is occurring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI&#8230;Infinito Gold out of Calgary are also permitting a new gold mine in northern Costa Rica, so some activity is occurring.</p>
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		<title>Comment on West Virginia wind versus coal: mining the debate for energy by hollergirl</title>
		<link>http://ithink.mining.com/2008/06/06/west-virginia-wind-versus-coal-mining-the-debate-for-energy/#comment-5492</link>
		<dc:creator>hollergirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live there and my family has been here for 10 generations and I am a coal miners daughter and grand daughter. I can tell you that coal mining has poisoned our water. Scientists just proved that the turned over soil you talk about is the cause of  and if not stopped will become a major toxic event in streams below the strip mining.  Since coal is finite and depeleting quickly then we had better start to use it to sustain us for the future.  Not to mention that the burning of coal is cooking the planet adn poisoning the air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live there and my family has been here for 10 generations and I am a coal miners daughter and grand daughter. I can tell you that coal mining has poisoned our water. Scientists just proved that the turned over soil you talk about is the cause of  and if not stopped will become a major toxic event in streams below the strip mining.  Since coal is finite and depeleting quickly then we had better start to use it to sustain us for the future.  Not to mention that the burning of coal is cooking the planet adn poisoning the air.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mining blog ethics &#8212; how to defend the industry and offend everybody else by Joan</title>
		<link>http://ithink.mining.com/2007/04/26/mining-blog-ethics-how-to-defend-the-industry-and-offend-everybody-else/#comment-5488</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although mining is, for sure, a male-dominated field, its impact reaches out to all.  These days, men and women alike experience first-hand the professional realities of the mining industry.  Being a miner is much more than going underground.  The technical aspects of the industry might be more male dominated, but the administrative side is also a huge part of the pie and there's where women make a stride in the industry.  It's only a matter of time before the numbers show a more level field.  Women can and make important contributions to the  mining industry and to all industries, so I don't think it's going to take long before you start seeing more women miners.  So, sleep tight for all the daughters and grandaughters of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although mining is, for sure, a male-dominated field, its impact reaches out to all.  These days, men and women alike experience first-hand the professional realities of the mining industry.  Being a miner is much more than going underground.  The technical aspects of the industry might be more male dominated, but the administrative side is also a huge part of the pie and there&#8217;s where women make a stride in the industry.  It&#8217;s only a matter of time before the numbers show a more level field.  Women can and make important contributions to the  mining industry and to all industries, so I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s going to take long before you start seeing more women miners.  So, sleep tight for all the daughters and grandaughters of the world.</p>
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		<title>Comment on West Virginia wind versus coal: mining the debate for energy by Rory McIlmoil</title>
		<link>http://ithink.mining.com/2008/06/06/west-virginia-wind-versus-coal-mining-the-debate-for-energy/#comment-5487</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory McIlmoil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of edits on my previous post:

"As for the cost of turbines, those costs are assumed by the developer" (which, yes, is passed on to the consumer, but the rest of my argument addresses that issue).

"based on cost of the farm plus taxes over a 20 year period divided by the amount of energy it would produce" -- the COE that I've estimated also reflects the availability of a 1.9 cent/kWh federal Production Tax Credit, which just got extended for another year.

Lastly, this wont be the last time AEP makes such a request, as global demand for App coal combined with dwindling App coal reserves will result in a steady increase in THE PRICE OF coal electricity over the next couple of decades.

Thanks. Rory</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of edits on my previous post:</p>
<p>&#8220;As for the cost of turbines, those costs are assumed by the developer&#8221; (which, yes, is passed on to the consumer, but the rest of my argument addresses that issue).</p>
<p>&#8220;based on cost of the farm plus taxes over a 20 year period divided by the amount of energy it would produce&#8221; &#8212; the COE that I&#8217;ve estimated also reflects the availability of a 1.9 cent/kWh federal Production Tax Credit, which just got extended for another year.</p>
<p>Lastly, this wont be the last time AEP makes such a request, as global demand for App coal combined with dwindling App coal reserves will result in a steady increase in THE PRICE OF coal electricity over the next couple of decades.</p>
<p>Thanks. Rory</p>
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		<title>Comment on West Virginia wind versus coal: mining the debate for energy by Rory McIlmoil</title>
		<link>http://ithink.mining.com/2008/06/06/west-virginia-wind-versus-coal-mining-the-debate-for-energy/#comment-5486</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory McIlmoil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jack,
I dont have much time to fully discuss the merits of the wind farm or the destructive impacts of strip-mining, but I assure you if you're interested, I would be glad to begin that discussion.  I would like to address your inquiry into what is beyond the points I/we put forth in proposing a Coal River Mountain wind farm.  To start with the soil turnover:

The soil on strip-mines is not turned over, as you would a compost pile or your own garden.  These forests exist with some of the richest soil in the world.   They are temperate rainforests, and they are one of the most biodiverse ecosystems in the world.  When strip-mines come in, they dont "turn over" the soil.  Sure, by law, they are supposed to remove and store the soil for when the mining is complete (most often times a decade or more later), but they dont.  Here's how the process ACTUALLY goes.

The coal companies clear-cut the mine site.  90% of the time, they dont even sell or distribute this valuable hardwood timber for commercial use.  They either burn it on site or dump it into the valleys.  Along with that goes the soil.  Yup, they actually dump the soil into the valley fills, which are constructed in headwater streams.  This has all been scientifically documented, see the EPA's Environmental Impact study on MTR and Valley Fills (can be viewed by clicking on Final PEIS at http://www.epa.gov/Region3/mtntop/), or the work of Ben Stout from Wheeling-Jesuit University.  Then they begin blasting the rock to get at the coal.  Most of that rock is also then dumped/bulldozed into the valley, covering the soil and trees.  When all is said and done, what the reclaimed land consists of is pulverized rock and coal that they then hydroseed with lespedeza, a scrub grass that can grow in the harshest of conditions, and sometimes desert bushes.  I'm not making this up, I've been studying MTR and reclamation for 18 months now.

As for the cost of turbines, those costs are assumed by the developer.  The estimated cost of the CRM wind farm would be around $750 million.  Alot of money yes, but here's the counter-point.  A proposed medium size coal-fired power plant generating 400-500MW of electricity costs well over $1Billion.  Take a look into the costs of proposed coal plants around the US these days, you'll see I'm right.  As for cost of electricity, the CRM wind farm will produce electricity at 6.5-7.0 cents per kilowatt-hour, based on cost of the farm plus taxes over a 20 year period divided by the amount of energy it would produce.  So that cost is an average over 20 years.  Secondly, Appalachian Power just announced that it is requesting a rate increase in WV from 6.4 to 7.35 cents per kilowatt-hour, citing the recent doubling in the price of Appalachian coal as requiring higher electricity rates so as to cover the higher purchasing costs for AEP.  Lastly, this wont be the last time AEP makes such a request, as global demand for App coal combined with dwindling App coal reserves will result in a steady increase in coal electricity over the next couple of decades.  The wind farm, however, once developed, will produce electricity at a constant price over the life of the farm.

Whats next.  profits from coal.  This one will blow you away.  A single county, Raleigh County, the county where we are proposing this wind farm, saw $450 million worth of coal leave on coal trains in 2006.  The mining employed 1400 people (1.8% of total county population, 3.5% of total county workforce, so not much of an economic benefit for most) at a total of $70M in income (see low pop % to understand how little this benefited the general county population).  In return, Raleigh County received $1.5 million in severance tax receipts.  This "share" of the coal wealth amounts to a third of a percent....let that one sink in....a third of a percent of the total wealth that left on the trains.  Raleigh County remains one of the poorest in the nation.  

Now, coal will still be mined in Raleigh County, even if the wind farm is built.  It will still be mined in the underground mines currently active below the mountain.  Raleigh County will still receive the same pittance of an economic return for the destructive investment of its land.  BUT, the $750K that the wind farm would add to county tax revenues, each year, amounts to an automatic 50% increase in the amount of tax revenue coming from energy resources.  AND, it would eliminate, at least for one set of communities, the increased social, health, environmental and economic costs that ALWAYS result from massive strip-mine (read Mountaintop Removal) operations.  

I hope this helps shed some light on the subject.  I'll be checking your post again.  Take care.

Rory McIlmoil
Coal River Mountain Wind Project</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jack,<br />
I dont have much time to fully discuss the merits of the wind farm or the destructive impacts of strip-mining, but I assure you if you&#8217;re interested, I would be glad to begin that discussion.  I would like to address your inquiry into what is beyond the points I/we put forth in proposing a Coal River Mountain wind farm.  To start with the soil turnover:</p>
<p>The soil on strip-mines is not turned over, as you would a compost pile or your own garden.  These forests exist with some of the richest soil in the world.   They are temperate rainforests, and they are one of the most biodiverse ecosystems in the world.  When strip-mines come in, they dont &#8220;turn over&#8221; the soil.  Sure, by law, they are supposed to remove and store the soil for when the mining is complete (most often times a decade or more later), but they dont.  Here&#8217;s how the process ACTUALLY goes.</p>
<p>The coal companies clear-cut the mine site.  90% of the time, they dont even sell or distribute this valuable hardwood timber for commercial use.  They either burn it on site or dump it into the valleys.  Along with that goes the soil.  Yup, they actually dump the soil into the valley fills, which are constructed in headwater streams.  This has all been scientifically documented, see the EPA&#8217;s Environmental Impact study on MTR and Valley Fills (can be viewed by clicking on Final PEIS at <a href="http://www.epa.gov/Region3/mtntop/" rel="nofollow">http://www.epa.gov/Region3/mtntop/</a>), or the work of Ben Stout from Wheeling-Jesuit University.  Then they begin blasting the rock to get at the coal.  Most of that rock is also then dumped/bulldozed into the valley, covering the soil and trees.  When all is said and done, what the reclaimed land consists of is pulverized rock and coal that they then hydroseed with lespedeza, a scrub grass that can grow in the harshest of conditions, and sometimes desert bushes.  I&#8217;m not making this up, I&#8217;ve been studying MTR and reclamation for 18 months now.</p>
<p>As for the cost of turbines, those costs are assumed by the developer.  The estimated cost of the CRM wind farm would be around $750 million.  Alot of money yes, but here&#8217;s the counter-point.  A proposed medium size coal-fired power plant generating 400-500MW of electricity costs well over $1Billion.  Take a look into the costs of proposed coal plants around the US these days, you&#8217;ll see I&#8217;m right.  As for cost of electricity, the CRM wind farm will produce electricity at 6.5-7.0 cents per kilowatt-hour, based on cost of the farm plus taxes over a 20 year period divided by the amount of energy it would produce.  So that cost is an average over 20 years.  Secondly, Appalachian Power just announced that it is requesting a rate increase in WV from 6.4 to 7.35 cents per kilowatt-hour, citing the recent doubling in the price of Appalachian coal as requiring higher electricity rates so as to cover the higher purchasing costs for AEP.  Lastly, this wont be the last time AEP makes such a request, as global demand for App coal combined with dwindling App coal reserves will result in a steady increase in coal electricity over the next couple of decades.  The wind farm, however, once developed, will produce electricity at a constant price over the life of the farm.</p>
<p>Whats next.  profits from coal.  This one will blow you away.  A single county, Raleigh County, the county where we are proposing this wind farm, saw $450 million worth of coal leave on coal trains in 2006.  The mining employed 1400 people (1.8% of total county population, 3.5% of total county workforce, so not much of an economic benefit for most) at a total of $70M in income (see low pop % to understand how little this benefited the general county population).  In return, Raleigh County received $1.5 million in severance tax receipts.  This &#8220;share&#8221; of the coal wealth amounts to a third of a percent&#8230;.let that one sink in&#8230;.a third of a percent of the total wealth that left on the trains.  Raleigh County remains one of the poorest in the nation.  </p>
<p>Now, coal will still be mined in Raleigh County, even if the wind farm is built.  It will still be mined in the underground mines currently active below the mountain.  Raleigh County will still receive the same pittance of an economic return for the destructive investment of its land.  BUT, the $750K that the wind farm would add to county tax revenues, each year, amounts to an automatic 50% increase in the amount of tax revenue coming from energy resources.  AND, it would eliminate, at least for one set of communities, the increased social, health, environmental and economic costs that ALWAYS result from massive strip-mine (read Mountaintop Removal) operations.  </p>
<p>I hope this helps shed some light on the subject.  I&#8217;ll be checking your post again.  Take care.</p>
<p>Rory McIlmoil<br />
Coal River Mountain Wind Project</p>
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		<title>Comment on Australia&#8217;s mining engineers $160,000 versus teachers $50,000 by Atomac</title>
		<link>http://ithink.mining.com/2008/06/11/australias-mining-engineers-160000-versus-teachers-50000/#comment-5484</link>
		<dc:creator>Atomac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing is that, at least as far as mining engineers are concerned, this is true. Teachers in WA earn a range based on experience from approximately AU$45,000 to AU$69,000. The $69,000 is a glass ceiling.

Mine workers from even the lowest earn nearly $100,000. This is for 12 hour shifts and sometimes 3 weeks on and 1 week off. Still the disparity is significant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is that, at least as far as mining engineers are concerned, this is true. Teachers in WA earn a range based on experience from approximately AU$45,000 to AU$69,000. The $69,000 is a glass ceiling.</p>
<p>Mine workers from even the lowest earn nearly $100,000. This is for 12 hour shifts and sometimes 3 weeks on and 1 week off. Still the disparity is significant.</p>
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